Close Call?
“I am very shaken right now and need to share what just happened to me.” That was the first sentence in a lengthy email sent to me over Father’s Day weekend.
The woman and her boyfried were walking their dog on the wooded paths around Lake Minnetonka in Minnesota. On a hot summer evening, Lake Minnetonka is teeming with people walking, running, boating and drinking. It was late and the woman was near several hot party spots. “Just then,” she says, “a dark blue big van pulled up on the road and stopped. The man driving had the lights on in the van and he seemed to be typing or searching on a police like radio. My boyfriend and I were scared so we began to run up the path. A young man between the ages of 21-28 came walking past us. He was alone and looked a little afraid. We continued to walk down the path and about one minute later the boy came running from behind us. He stopped when he got to us. I asked him if he was okay. He said that he wasn’t okay and that he was afraid. He said it was a terrible night and that he couldn’t even begin to talk about it. He said that he was sorry because he was messed up. He didn’t seem messed up though to us.”
The young man walked away from the water and towards the street. The woman and her boyfriend searched for the young man, but couldn’t find him. They got in their car to drive home and spotted a police cruiser. She says that they flashed their lights at the car, but the officer didn’t pull over. Instead, the cruiser sped away from the busy area and into a more deserted neighborhood. The woman and her boyfriend turned away and called police. She says the dispatcher took her information.
The woman says, “I am scared. I know that the boy was running away from the van. It is like the van knew that he would be walking down the path and was waiting for him. We tried to alert a cop and he speed away from us. Whoever was in the van must have been in contact with people at the bar and in the area and I know it sounds crazy but a cop too… I am afraid for the safety of the boy. I wish I would have told him to come with me but he looked terrified and he could have been dangerous. Please get this information to the investigators or whoever you think would benefit from it.”
To verify the details, I asked the woman to get her police report or a record of her call to police. She says the police department does not have any record of report. The woman’s phone has a record of the call and the duration of it.
The woman is now on a mission to spread the story of SFK and is encouraging people to read about it and take precautions.
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Monique,
I have to say that I am afraid of posting here. I am not used to blogging and you and ZP seemed to discredit me from the get go. I do think that the killer(s) must read this blog and may post here so I do not know if it is you or anyone else. I sent Kristi a detailed description of what I saw and she posted what she wanted to post. I wasn’t going to comment again but then I just read your question and got a stomach ache. I saw 4 people that I was afraid of other than the young man and the police officer. Those people were: the van driver, a couple walking quickly down the path after the young man and a man that seemed to follow us to our car. This is a section from my original email to Kristi which details a person like you described
“We put our dog in our car parked in a near by parking lot. There was a man walking towards us… we stood in front of our license plates to make sure that the man couldn’t see them. We waited for him to walk away and then drove to Bayview.”
At the end of the email I describe what the people look like and this is it for the man who came towards us.
“Man walking: Heavy weight. Grey hair. Wearing a black fanny pack.”
I am sure that there are many overweight men with grey hair that walk in that area but the man I saw was part of the chain of events that happened in that night one after another.
The man driving the van was wearing glasses.
@Jake
Jake,
I agree with a LOT of what you say. The scary thing is that Monique described people that I saw. I provided Kristi with these descriptions the night this all happened and Kristi didn’t describe the people on the blog post. I copied and pasted my descriptions for Monique. There are probably a lot of salt and pepper haired people and overweight people with grey hair but it is still scary.
Monique-I didn’t see the mans clothes who was driving but I did see the walking mans clothes. He had on a grey shirt, shorts, sneakers and a black fanny pack.
Jay — Did you ever think that maybe Monique is really not a woman at all. It could be possible that she/he was able to describe the people you saw that night, because she/he/they is actually one of them. I don’t mean to scare you, but you should very careful what you reveal to Monique especially, and really anyone on this blog. You don’t know that she or anyone is really who they are portraying themselves to be.
How true this is. I’m so upset right now I feel like exposing you.
Or someone could just follow you and get to the core of the matter really quickly. Eh?
I like the way you “two” keep agreeing with yourself.
That makes a lot of sense. Maybe you could make a spreadsheet and put it up as a blog. You can get free blogs by starting a google email. Then you can make a blog. If you make one, please let us know.
What you mean is that you and your half-dozen other names and multiple personalities all want to convince people that the priests and St. whatever it is Abbey are the killers — when some of us actually think YOU are the killer.
@jbrown
Anonymous Coward is the same person with many aliases also on this site. And– as Monique pointed out — we do not “know” if the scents were at the Abbey. Where does this info come from? We keep getting hearsay but no reliable info regarding that.
That is three words.
Since we did not see the original email, we do not know the details. So this man came toward your car and you blocked your license plates? Do you know where the man came from? Did it seem like he was trying to talk with you?
And I have to ask this question– had you smoked marijuana or used any other drug that might heighten your awareness and increase your fears?
Wow. I do not do drugs of any kind. The most I ever drink is about 2 glasses of wine and I had nothing to drink the weekend this all happened. When we came off the path and were walking on the side walk we heard heavy steps behind us. I don’t know if he followed us from the path or from the street. He was coming towards us until we were in the parking lot where there were other people so he stayed on the side walk and just looked at us.
Jan Jenkins has a book coming out sometime this month which will clear up a lot about what happened to Chris and other men.
all the comments on this thread, so far, are from the real Jake
Did you read about that couple that was killed in their home in Florida — the Billings? After reading that, and how police believe it was a group of about 8 people operating together — after reading that, I believe anything is possible. If you think there is a coordinated group effort to harm you or someone, by all means, take it seriously.
When the heavy man with salt and pepper hair and the fanny pack came walking over to you, did he say anything? What race(s) or nationalities did these different people appear to be?
Did you feel like the man walking up to your car was somehow connected to the man in the van? To the younger man on the path? To no one? Can you pinpoint anything that caused you to feel fear about the man with the fanny pack? Did he look mean?
Kristi, the owner/operator of this blog has tried to clear up some of this confusion. On the Smiley Face Killer thread, She posted the following:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:50 | #41 Reply | Quote @ EVERYONE – I’ve selected not to have people register to make comments. The intent is not to intimidate anyone and to welcome everyone. It means that several different people can comment with the same name. Obviously, someone has done that. It could be an innocent error – people do share the same names. It could be something else.
Kristi has also indicated that a person using a completely different email address is also posting recently under the name Jake.
They are impersonators —- why?? — because they want to make somebody (Jake) appear crazy —- but why?? — because they want to throw-off the readers of this blog (including the families of victims).
It also seems quite PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that anyone who has immediately jumped on this bandwagon (that Jake must be crazy) — Monique, ZorrosPal, AV and a few others who are trying to scare people into not posting — are really associated with trying to cover-up the investigation, trying to throw people off track, trying to muddy the waters just to confuse anyone & everyone, to frustrate the serious people who read & post on this blog —- & could possibly be doing so because they are working for the killers (but I think it is really more likely that he/she/they are really the killer(s)— I doubt that there is a huge group of killers with a bunch of people working them — just a few very sick twisted people.
@Jake
I do not think you are nuts based on a few posts, but based on almost all of your posts all along. So in my eyes, the impostor, if there is one (and I do not think there is) has done you no harm.
http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2004/06/13/mattjames/james13.txt
there is another weird article from Lacrosse about a 37 year old paranoid schizophrenic who said he was in trouble and someone in a white van was chasing him. he was then found dead in the Mississippi river the next day.
really weird. he had drug and alcohol problems and schizophrenia, but him saying that stuff really is creepy.
BUT-
What I really wanna know is THE OTHER 12 COMMON SYMBOLS (Symbolism)
The Detectives talk about that sealed the Serial Killers theory 4 them.
Because of ALL This STUFF I have found.
(see-CONTACT US(Above)Top of the Page/Site put your Cursor on it & -
the – “Graffiti You Found” should POP UP. Itz a hidden Realm on this site. KRISTI SHOULD REALLY FIX THAT. & HAVE IT OPEN!!! As opposed to hidden.
*I DONT THINK 1/2 THE PEOPLE EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT*
-So KRISTI you should make it,or put it out in the open.
Because Graffiti you found sHOULD HAVE ITZ OWN Category.
Anyways-
Does Anybody know what the other Twelve Symbols are other than the Macbre SMILEY ???
Because I have somemore PIC’s but I only sent in the Obviously (At least to us) related ones. SEE ABOVE -Contact Us — “Graffiti You Found”
Mine (Pics) comes wit A Connected Story of Undenible frightening truth or one Unbelivable coincidence .
-BatMan
@BatMan
Your pictures, especially of the man “falling” into the water,and where is Waldo are really frightening. I can’t help but to see them as a connection. Would like to know what else you found as I am too afraid to go to that bridge. I mean, that is some creepy stuff.
@ BatMan – sorry the comments were closed on the graffiti page – it was not intentional. I changed the links at the top of the main page to make the “graffiti you found” section more apparent.
Thanks for alerting me.
@Kristi Piehl
THANX KRISTI! Not just from me but Im sure EVERYONE. its alot more accesible & noticable.
@Monique777
Yea i WOULD NEVER Walk out their in the Dark alone, thats 4 – sure! THAT BRIDGE is Double Train width but I would say its not much longer than a semi truck, in length anyway.
Honestley I’d be happy to show ya (In the DayTime -LoL) Like if ya wanted 2 meet somewhere, an follow me in yar car out their. I’d say its 10 – 12 mnts. max from,,,,say the Summit monument or Clevland & 94.
I could send ya – or you me, an E-Mail.
Yet, I understand its always scary meeting people on the web. Especially with you (Allegedly – LoL) being a girl. J/K,. Then again, you could always bring friends; Boyfriend, Yar Dad. – Yar Dad – LoL. Seprate cars I’d be fine with. I would just like to talk to somebody, in the know about a few other Matches. i think im on to something else too, its just hard to get into detail on here, ya know.
But-
The One for istance i was telling ya about on ‘Graffiti You Found’ (about a hour or so ago) On the Last U – shaped Pillar by the water on the left. i think that matches the fading in 7 out Black- spray painted One (from Iowa or Illinois?) It had that crown ya mentioned. Its on ‘This Site’ somewhere? Although in the pic Krist posted ya, just can’t see the full tag. An I think that matches the one i been mentioing in Red underneath FRD PRKWY. I think ya could probally see it wit binoculaurs if ya stood far enough out. (to the North yet still underneath the bridge).
Either way let me know… It would be nice too show some other Detective who passionately believes in this SFK stuff & has knowledge of it.
Istead of trying to explain the WHOLE thing from the beganning to others who usually doubt it or just,,,Flat out don’t care.
Soo – *I Invite you Monique & Kristi as well* -
hit me up here – theflyinggraysons@yahoo.com
has anyone seen the latest “Dateline” show? The killer killed at random using a knife (not related to SFK), but he had a copy of the movie “Human Hunters” in his truck. I was thinking this may be interesting if there is like a fan club or something. The movie came out in 2002 though. These drownings happened way before the movie.
@jbrown
For some reason I have in my notes the movies “Faces of Death” series 4-6.
In my notes I have the movie “Faces of Death” part 4 which came out in 1990. Dr. Gross does Faces of Death 1-3, but then Dr. Flellis, a neurosurgeon, whom they refer to as “the psycho Dr.” goes into a morality play by stressing the perils of alcohol and the mishaps it leads to with underage drinkers. The end of the movie gets into an FBI raid on a drug house which yields a satanic cult complete with snuff films and blood filled flasks. Movies 5 and 6 show corpses of drowning victims, a drowned man where bystanders watch as he’s put in a body bag and mass graves.
I think I have this in my notes because it was mentioned here.I tried watching Faces of Death part 1 and didn’t think twice about it.A friend and I made popcorn and we thought it would be creepy. I could not make it past 5 minutes of the movie nor could my friend.We were planning on watching the entire series as I wanted to see part 4-6 especially as someone indicated the SFK may have gotten ideas from this movie.
If anyone could make it through part 4-6 it would be interesting to hear what they thought-if it did seem to inspire the SFK around 1990.I just can’t watch it as it is too disturbing.There was almost a cult like following to these movies. That’s why I think part 4-6 may shed some light on where SFK may have taken some ideas from.
The problem is the majority of people can’t watch these movies. Just in 5 minutes time I thought I was going to be ill.I got up from the couch and almost passed out. My friend said I turned white. So, when I say it is very disturbing, I’m not saying this lightly. If anyone has seen part 4-6 I would be very curious to know if you think it inspired the SFK.