GHB, Alcohol & Water – A Killer’s Combination?
Brandon Scott
“Hey Ma, it’s your only son,” those are the words Michelle Villadores says she misses hearing from her son, Brandon Scott. Michelle says, “My son would do anything in the world for me, his children and his family to keep us safe from harm.”
On January 5, 2008, Brandon, a father of three, couldn’t protect himself. The 25-year-old was last seen leaving Premier Nightclub in Stockton, California. His body was found later that month in a nearby deep water channel. Michelle says, “No knife wounds, no gunshots, no blows or beatings. Bible in his pocket, as he always had it, some of his money missing, not all of it.”
The toxicology reports revealed a blood alcohol content of .19 and high levels of GHB (commonly called the date rape drug). Officially, Brandon’s case is open and his death is considered “suspicious,” but not homicide.
Michelle believes her son was targeted, drugged, thrown in the water and left to die. Under the influence of GHB, it would’ve been nearly impossible for Brandon to try to swim or scream for help. Michelle thinks she knows who did it. “He and his crew have bragged about what they did to my son. It comes out more and more each day.” Michelle says, “I just need someone to not feel as if they are snitching, but are helping a grieving mother and sisters and children and their mother and family and friends who loved Brandon very very much.”
Michelle is now helping raise Brandon’s three kids and still fighting for answers for her son. This Father’s Day is another difficult milestone. Brandon’s 12-year-old sister created this poem (at right, clicking on it to enlarge) and is publishing it in their local newspaper.
Note: There are many circumstances that make Brandon’s death different from SFK. In fact, Brandon’s brother was murdered and his family believes the two deaths are connected. Michelle suspects that the night Brandon’s brother was shot, Brandon was the intended target and his brother died protecting him. Click here to read more about Brandon and the possible connection to his brother’s death. I think Brandon’s story is an important one to tell because it shows that GHB and alcohol can make someone a potentially ideal drowning victim.
Thank you to Michelle for opening up and sharing with me.
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I’ve noticed that new technique being employed by someone who is aiding the real SFK is to repeat his own post at least 3 times.
This has occurred a few times now under a few different threads. Perhaps he is thinking that if he repeats the same thing over & over, the casual reader who is perhaps just skimming will only pick up what he has said, rather than any of the other posts.
I don’t what you are – priest, lawyer, killer. I just don’t understand why you are constantly trying to undermine the theory that a particular young man was abducted & murdered and then you suggest other outlandish alternatives.
I am not Harry or Anon. I am only Jake.
Wow…and now your calling me a killer???!!!! You really are a sad fu*k, arent you, pheeew –
who do you work for really…..??? You are arrogant – full of yourself, and you think that you re so much better/clever than anyone else – you are a typical sociopath … and I know for a fact that some “alphabetical” instances love to hire sociopaths…..
I took a break from here hoping the fighting would come to an end (as I was a participant too) and it seems it has only escalated. I became frustrated reading all the anger and then lashed out. That proves I am not nice.Jake I lashed out at you and apologize. Felt bad for the mom but you’re right. You may have respectfully read all the posts.
So I took some days away from this hoping to return and see some information or debate or something.
The comment above is atrocious-the worst comment on this blog.
Why gang up on Zorro’s Pal? He has provided a lot of information about men going missing and possibilities.He is smart. If we disagree with something can we just debate it with out bashing people? I’ll try too. Just feel we are getting no where with this side tracking.
Why are people here so suspicious of one another? People think posters are working for someone? Who? I don’t get that one.Why would someone even suspect anyone here is working for anyone?
And if a person questions anything about priests they are accused of wanting the priest theory off the blog entirely? Why? It seems their accused of trying to cover it up or something??? Why? Unless they’re a priest, are NAMED specifically and are involved in killing what would be the point? Why all the suspiciousness around the priest theory anyway? It’s a theory like any of the others.People don’t react that way to the Trane theory.
And my name is being looked up and then connected to the Abbey because it has 777 in it and that was some book written by someone that was really mean and so I am suspicious? and I was told by someone else I have an agenda here? I seriously think this stuff is strange.
What warrants all this suspicion about anyone coming here to post? I really don’t understand it. I thought it could be some type of paranoia, like paranoid schizophrenia or schizoid personality but then there would have to be 3-4 posters with the exact same disorder which wouldn’t make sense. And there would be no way someone with this disorder could have a normal life and be able to blog and write.
I thought this was just a blog to talk about victims, their families and discuss what has happened to these men.I thought our interest and concern was mutual.
I think I am in the dark about something. There is something I am not aware of because this subject matter shouldn’t cause so many on here to be suspicious of fellow posters. At least I wouldn’t think it would. Maybe it’s because I’m newer to blogging or have only been to 2 sites (here and Foot Prints)? Maybe someone could fill me in or maybe I should check some other sites out.
Sorry for using Brandon’s link to say this stuff. I should have posted it else where. I didn’t mean any disrespect to Brandon.
@Michelle Villadores
I hope you are finding some answers and someone is talking.
I can see why you think the fight was odd. Possibly a set up. I mean after he punched the guy in the mouth did he say, oh, I’m sorry, let’s make up and go get something to eat? Doesn’t seem likely. They fight, maybe to distract others, Brandon is grabbed and put in the van where the two that were fighting then proceed to get into that same van. Or they get him after the fight.
I hope you hear something soon. I am praying answers will come your way. Please let us know some how. There sure are a lot of articles in the paper about it. Hopefully some one will finally come forward and do the right thing. I hope you are hanging in there okay.
@monique777
This site is about investigating deaths that most people on here suspect of being murders. Monique, why are you attempting to portray yourself as so naive. People should be suspicious of bloggers on this site — after all, there have been perhaps 80 murders!!!!! If there is a serial killer or a gang, they may regularly read &/or post on this site, or one or more people associated with the group may do so for them.
Monique — you are correct that no one on this site reacts so poorly to any of the other theories — Trane, Hmong, etc. It has only been you and Zorro’sPal who have reacted so poorly to the priest/monk theory. You yourself have continually regularly suggested that any comments concerning priests should not be posted on this site, and have suggested that all that can be posted elsewhere, but you do not object to any of the other theories. That kind of position by you & Zorro’sPal can only make me & others wonder about you & ZP. Why are you & ZP trying to sweep the priest theory under the rug? It is only a theory at this stage, like all the other theories.
For the most part — if a poster disagrees with someone’s theory, most people don’t even bother to voice their disagreement, or they briefly just state that they don’t buy into that one. However, you are correct — the theories about priests/monks have been treated very differently.
You & ZP have deliberately chosen not to simply allow others to post concerning priests. Whenever someone posts about a possible priest theory, ZP actively attacks both that person & the theory as ridiculous or crazy, & you suggest that it should not be posted on this site, but be put elsewhere, essentially trying to sweep it under the rug. Sometimes you try to portray yourself as protecting the families that read here or trying to stop the posting of pornography. However, the only person who has ever posted anything amounting to pornography is Zorro’sPal in one of his rants against all people who post anything which advances the priest/monk theory.
Monique, you come accross as sweet & well-mannered, but you won’t allow the priest theory to see the light of day. Why is that?
You— Monique (along with ZP) — have created the suspiciousness around the priest theory. You two don’t object to any other theories being posted. Why is that?
@jake
I don’t think it sounds niave one bit to ask about suspiciousness,why people suggest posters work for someone (who?), why my name became connected through 777 to an evil book (why?) and why asking to tone down the molestation talk should cause one to think it’s a conspiracy of some type? to not want the priest theory on this blog.This is not niave at all. And I am no way niave nor would I want to be portrayed in that way.So let the record be set straight on that one.
I know killers may post here and so I am cautious to a point.
Please put just one post where I say I don’t want the priest theory posted. Yes, I am so tired of reading about what happens to young boys and the abby and have expressed that in numerous posts and specifically why, but don’t think I’ve ever asked the priest theory not be posted. I know myself, and I haven’t ruled it out so I don’t believe I would say that.
And yes, I objected to the Hmong gang theory because gangs don’t live as traditional Hmong so they don’t follow the Shaman. Yes, I have questioned theories and think that is good.
Aside from the theory I am working on with a few people from a different site, the Trane and priest theory would follow if our theory falls apart. In the mean time I am interested in many theories, not just ours, as they are possibilities.
We should all question all of the theories, but we should not dismiss other people’s theories.
You keep saying that you are tired of hearing about what priests have done to young boys, and I can understand how you and others might not see how sex abuse by priests of young boys could be relevant to the sfk victims. Here is article from a respected newspaper about college age men who have been targeted by priests for sex abuse.
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-a1_5oblates.6931045jul05,0,3812599.story
There has been targeting of college age men by priests for sexual related purposes. We don’t know if there was any sex involved in these abductions, but the victims all seem to fit a profile, athletic successful college age guys.
I had truly hoped that someone would read the blogs/stories regarding my son and be able to help me in someway. I cannot grieve. I cannot let him go yet. I was raised to believe that a Soul cannot rest if you do not let them go and I need my son to rest after all of these months of running. So I am respectfully asking that if you are not posting regarding my son’s – - please find another site to blog your suspicions. When I refer someone to this site, they are not interested because they are not trying to read about priests and molestations – please, please do not take away what Kristi has taken so much of her personal time to put together for me and my family.
There were so many good questions and theories surrounding Brandon’s death and I appreciate Monique777 and Zorro’s Pal and whomever else wants to ask questions and allow me to post with the answers and please by all means refer others that may have some cold case background or law enforcement background that is willing to help me.
In the last few days we have come upon new evidence and before I post anything I would like for the drama to end. For the next couple of weeks I am staring at the three grandchildren that God Blessed me to have in place of my son and I have to do everything humanly possible to fight for Brandon. We know how his brother Ruben died, he was shot to death and his death is declared a homicide, but it is with everything that I have in me to get this evidence needed to convince this police department to change Brandon’s case to a homicide. Ruben is dead because someone was trying to shoot Brandon and he tried to protect him. My son was not perfect, he armed himself with a gun after a few attempts on his life, but tha night in the club he didn’t have one and one or more of his acquaintances help bring him to his death and I aim to prove it and I will not stop until I no longer have breath in my body.
So if you are not on bored regarding Brandon, I respectfully ask you to blog elsewhere and give me a chance to get the help that I have prayed for.
Thank you,
Michelle
Michelle,
I pray that you get the answers that you need to get law enforcement to do the correct thing for your son. Love your grandchildren and teach them the courage and love that is so evident that you have. People do horrible things to other people. Imagine how sad it would be to live your life like that. People that can do the things that happened to Brandon will never know the kind of love that you have and can teach Brandon’s children. Brandon will help you. Just think about him with smiles and he will be there. Those that you want brought to justice will in one way or another pay dearly for what they have done.
I sincerely hope that Brandon’s murder can be solved.
To: Monique777, Odette, Jake, Zorro’s Pal – thank you so very much for your kindness, your prayers and your hopes that I will find Justice for my son. I sit here in tears as I read your responses after my late night blogs (with a few typos, sorry about that) – I can not sleep again, 4 hours and then up for work and take care of the kids while they are here visiting and my 12 year old. My husband worries about me, but I will remain strong for my family. My son’s first born turns 7 years old tomorrow, she is so sweet and so wise for her age. My son is missing everything he wanted to see and endure with his children. His brother Ruben had 2 sons pass on before him both infants from newborn to 1 1/2 years of age and finally a baby girl who is now 5 years old.
So many know what happened to my son – I just can’t understand why they won’t help me.
@Michelle Villadores
I know you want to stay strong for your family but maybe they worry because you need to care for yourself right now.This is not selfish because you take care of you to be better later to raise your your 12 year old and your 3 beautiful grandchildren. You have been through more in the last 14 months than any one should have to ever endure. Being “strong” is over rated.Maybe they need to see you sad and crying.
The kids know what happened is bad and it might help them to see you be human and show your feelings rather than being a pillar of strength.I know you are only trying to do what you think is best.
There is something terribly wrong with the WOMEN who will not talk or give information through the anonymous tip line. I don’t know why their conscience hasn’t driven them to do the right thing. The people who know and aren’t talking know it is wrong.If they can make just one good choice in their life and do some good in this world it would be to call anonymously and give you the answers.
I don’t know what your spiritual beliefs are but know that in some way God does bring justice, maybe not in the time frame we would like, but eventually there is justice. Both Ruben and Brandon will have justice.
I hope you get the support you need at Brandon’s daughter’s Birthday tomorrow when the family will all be together.
My prayers are with you and your family. I will also pray for the people who refuse to come forward with the information.
@Michelle Villadores
This is so extremely sad. I hope that new evidence leads to something. I wish you and your family all the best. I am concerned for your safety, since the people that hurt your sons know who you are. Please be safe and strong and keep the little ones safe. So sorry to see anyone in such a terrible situation. As things develop, if it is safe to post about it, please let us know.
Why is ZorrosPal trying to instill fear in Michelle Villadores for herself & for the little ones? This is just plain cruel. He pretends to be on her side about finding real answers, but he is subtley (or really not so subtley) sending a message (essentially a veiled threat) to all the families of victims.
Only the real killer would send out this kind of veiled threat to the families of victims. He knows that the families read this blog. He is trying to scare anyone & everyone from further investigating these crimes, including all of us bloggers. That is his technique.
My guess is that now he will try to act innocent, & claim that he was only expressing genuine concern for Michelle Villadores. ZP is clever, but we are on to him & his gang.
Indeed.
I was just over at godlike productions, trane thread, & there is some really good evidence & theories that has just been posted in the last couple of days, on pages 94-95, which really sheds alot of light on how some of these cases are related to one another.
Everyone should definitely look at this stuff.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message542174/pg94
@Jake
Will you please knock it off. Please respect Brandon’s mother, Michelle’s wishes to stop bickering. Go somewhere else. Thank you.
What you call “bickering” is being done by those people who react in a hostile way to anyone who posts any info re priest/monks/abbey. I don’t think anyone thinks that Brandon was killed by priests. In fact, his mother & no one else seems to suspect that Brandon was killed by anyone other than the same people who killed her other son, not the serial killers who are killing in other parts of the country altogether. I respect Brandon’s Mother & Brandon immensely. Unlike some people who post on this blog, I am trying to work to solve crimes, not to bury evidence or to attack the people who bring forth evidence to post.
I don’t know how many different aliases ZorrosPal & his gang really has. I think if the killer were going to post on this site, he would so with several different aliases to throw people off, & try to make it look like other people (with completely different personalities than himself — albeit different personalities manufactured by the killer to throw people off) were also in agreement with him, when he debunks the valid theories & sends people on wild goose chases after the bogus ones.
It seems like Odette could be another one of those debunker aliases. Why would she attack me for posting evidence of a theory?
Funny you should be the one mentioning aliases. I know who you are now and you have been plain cruel, not just to me but to the victims, their families, the commenters, the victim’s friends, the blog….all because you were angry. You are a fraud.
all Jake posts on this thread so far are real
Kristi, the owner/operator of this blog has tried to clear up some of this confusion. On the Smiley Face Killer thread, She posted the following:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:50 | #41 Reply | Quote @ EVERYONE – I’ve selected not to have people register to make comments. The intent is not to intimidate anyone and to welcome everyone. It means that several different people can comment with the same name. Obviously, someone has done that. It could be an innocent error – people do share the same names. It could be something else.
Kristi has also indicated that a person using a completely different email address is also posting recently under the name Jake.
They are impersonators —- why?? — because they want to make somebody (Jake) appear crazy —- but why?? — because they want to throw-off the readers of this blog (including the families of victims).
It also seems quite PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that anyone who has immediately jumped on this bandwagon (that Jake must be crazy) — Monique, ZorrosPal, AV and a few others who are trying to scare people into not posting — are really associated with trying to cover-up the investigation, trying to throw people off track, trying to muddy the waters just to confuse anyone & everyone, to frustrate the serious people who read & post on this blog —- & could possibly be doing so because they are working for the killers (but I think it is really more likely that he/she/they are really the killer(s)— I doubt that there is a huge group of killers with a bunch of people working them — just a few very sick twisted people.
I had not been on this blog for a few days out of frustration. I kept asking myself, “why did they have to pick this blog of all blogs to bicker on/” I am devestated because I had hoped someone out there might be able to help me with my son’s case and this has turned out to be someone’s personal plight rather than help for my son.
Today will be my last post. My heart is wrenching with pain because I know who murdered my son and others but the police will not do anything unless someone comes forward and I doubt that they will ever do it. The police lost interest in this case when Brandon’s body was found. They are no longer interested in the information that I have obtained, I just don’t know what to do any longer. This pain is real and no Mother should ever have to go through what I am going through. No one will take a moment to bring my story to press. Do you have any idea how hard I have tried to give my son a voice??? Now somone wants to play games on a blog that might have interested someone to read about my son and help me.
For those of you who have shown me love, especially Kristi – “thanks with much love”.
Do you know someone who would like to do a story about my son and what happened to him? If so, please contact Kristi and she will contact me.
@Michelle Villadores
Hello, People are still reading. They just cannot post too much because no one wants to deal with this. Please realize that there are some posters here who obviously have extreme personal issues and they have chosen to reveal those issues on this blog in roundabout ways. It is very painful and counterproductive for everyone else. Think of it as if you are reading the Son of Sam’s letters, or the Unabomber’s rants — but first-hand on a blog on the internet. It may be a first in the annals of crime.
Now — on to your situation —
Do you KNOW who killed Brandon or do you assume? I hope you understand that people will be afraid if they think/ know that these people are likely to kill as revenge. Please realize that people need to protect their lives and the lives of their families. People do not want to be killed in retaliation for speaking up.
I think one good thing you might do is check with Crimestoppers and find out if they will put up posters in the area, offering a reward to any anonymous tipper. Or see if someone will offer a reward for a non-anonymous tipper — because likely, a person’s testimony would be very much needed to convict such a killer.
This is what I suggest: What are the names of the newspapers and new shows in your area? Look them up online by Googling. Find the email addresses of the people on there. Then email with your story. You are a good writer. Write and tell them what think. Give your contact information so they can reach you.
Please take care and keep yourself safe. And keep the rest of your family safe.
If you still live in that area, is there any way you could move? Could you relocate to a totally new city with the children? Maybe you could seek help from a charity organization to help you relocate? The U.S. is a big place and there are many places where you will be more likely to keep away from gangs.
@Michelle Villadores
My heart goes out to you. Please know it was just the poorest of luck that bickering happened here. This is not typical of this site as most people are sensitive to your situation as any human being would be but there has been someone posting creating trouble for all. I have found out more than I’ve ever wanted to know about him. I am sure this was the last thing you needed and please know, there are people here who do care.
As for Brandon, could you reach out to your community to gather some money for a reward for information? Do you belong to a church? Money can be raised through bake sales,auctions and many other ways.
Have you made up flyers? Sometimes a local Kinkos will do it for much less money when they know it is for a cause. You can post these all over the place and get his friends to run a volunteer center to get help posting the flyers. You can make Google maps for people to cover certain areas so work isn’t duplicated. You could put the anonymous tip line on each poster.
Have you contacted reporters? America’s Most Wanted? And Kristi would know other shows to contact. Your Congressman? You could relentlessly send emails to a list of people who would potentially help you.
Many parents on this site have had to do so much to try to get justice. You are not alone in your pursuit and you have my prayers and thoughts.
You can create a group effort (family and friends) to help you with all this work. If you need help emailing I can help. Just give Kristi a list of people and I’ll email to all of them.
Do you ask for donations on Brandon’s web site? That would help. If you collect enough you can hire a private investigator. I’m not sure of your financial situation but PIs seem to get to the bottom of things. At the very least it might put pressure on the LE to continue to pursue answers for Brandon.
I’m sorry if I am overwhelming you here and certainly don’t mean to. It doesn’t appear people have it in their hearts to come forward and speak the truth. I’m trying to think of other avenues to take in that the people who know what happened just won’t pick up a phone and call anonymously. I have never heard of such a thing and don’t know where there conscience has gone.
I wish you all the best Michelle. Many prayers are being sent your way. If you need help from afar (MN), please let Kristi (site owner) know.
Here you go, proving once again that you are mentally ill and most likely a killer.
Seems that everyone that I have sought help from want to assume that Brandon’s death and that of his half-brother Ruben were due to Gang Violence – which I want to clarify. It was not Gang Violence, but was retaliation from a fist fight Brandon was involved in. No guns, just old fashioned fighting.
Is the medical examiner sure the GHB levels are from his being drugged??? GHB is produced quickly after death and if only blood was tested for GHB, the results could be misleading. Positive levels in the blood, but negative/low levels in the eye fluid (vitreous humor) and urine mean that it was probably something the body produced after death. If they all had a high result then it was most likely from the drug being ingested. The same thing goes for the alcohol. Just want to make sure your toxicology results have been evaluated accurately.